Wasanelder Once

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  Can someone please explain James 5:14 for me

  by preymanchis in

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  i cant seem to understand this text actually, can someone please explain it to me.

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  Wasanelder Once

  Thank you Mr. Spock.
  
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  Random Musing of an ex-JW between a rock and a hard place.

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  many of you may recall pass postings of mine where i mentioned my plans of moving away from my current neighborhood.

  mainly because my office got moved and now my commute is about one hour each way.

  my employer is pretty flexible so showing up on time, for now, is not an issue.

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  Wasanelder Once

  We don't believe in luck, remember? You must think of your family first. Get out of Dodge, move. Its your life you have control over, not your mother in laws'. She must make an unconditional choice to join you. Let the "Faithful" brother in law step up. If he doesn't, she will become symptomatic and when she accepts that she NEEDS your help you will happily receive her with open arms. Your wife must stand by you in this, talk it over. I'm sure it wont take long for your mother in law to join you. The decision will be difficult enough without enslaving yourself to the WT regimen again. Be strong.
  
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  What Should I Say?

  by cookiemaster in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i need a bit of advice.

  i've been pimo for a long time and fading more and more.

  i occasionally attend for family but never give any answers or actively participate in any way.

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  Wasanelder Once

  The Gestapo were intimidating in their jodhpurs. symbolism and swastika branding. Its the power all that symbolized that made them so intimidating. With the Org. their authority comes from your willingness to be intimidated by the "titles" they don't have, right? Elder? CO? Its fascinating how we were trained to demure to them. Take hold and look at them as any other person you interact with in daily life. They may have more responsibility but you are NOT their responsibility. Take the power away from them by treating them as equals. Tell them "Sorry, I'm not up to a visit, maybe next time round." They can't kick you out for being dismissive.
  
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  Receiving so much hate recently....

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well, as you all know, my wife (unstuck) and i are not df or da.. we just stopped attending several years back after my "apostate" online activity was found by a nosey employee of ours while she was working in our office (long story if anyone wants to know - it would have to be another thread).

  we never met with any elders - no congregation judicial activity occurred (as we would never consent to do so anyway).

  so our policy has been to be the same kind, loving, normal people we have always been.

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  Wasanelder Once

  An elder that I knew from before he became one was on my mind last week. I haven't seen him for at least 9 years or more. He was young and had a heart attack back them. This past week I was just thinking about how he might be doing. I am not DF'd or DA'd but long faded some 15 years or so. Yesterday, in the market, who do you suppose I ran into? This elder and his wife. He looks good, though he's had another heart issue. A stint fixed it. I told him I was thinking of him and he smiled with genuine appreciation. I always liked him. He was loyal to me, but not enough to pursue a friendship after my disappearance. That's ok, I am just glad to know he's ok.
  
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  Sometimes it's the little things....

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm listening to a podcast where a former elder describes how another elder conducted the watchtower study about hyperbole.

  the elder called it hyper-bowl.

  soon the whole congregation called it hyper-bowl.

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  Wasanelder Once

  We had a CO who wore his watch so that the face of the watch was in the direction of the palm of his hand. In other words the band was on the top of his wrist and the face on the underside. We all thought it was clever that he wore his watch that way so he could check the time unobserved, as looking at the back of your wrist would attract attention. Soon all the brothers were wearing it that way. Finally I mentioned how clever he was to wear his watch that way. He revealed the truth that he had a bump on his wrist and it was painful to wear it normally. This caused a mass reversal.
  
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  "World conditions have never been as bad as they are now"

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i went to a funeral yesterday and ran into a jdub.

  of course, he approached me and it didn't take more than a minute into the conversation for him to get into the jdub gloom and doom mode.

  he said that world conditions have never been as bad as they are now.. i looked straight into his eyes and said, "i think that world conditions were a lot worse during world war two.".

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  Wasanelder Once

  I used to feel that way, but I got better.
  
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  Did You Care About The Royal Wedding?

  by minimus in

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  i don’t get it.

  who really cares?

  in the usa, it’s such a huge newsworthy event.

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  Wasanelder Once

  No
  
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  Active witnesses? Please help?

  by Ahava in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hi,i'm lost and a little sad.

  i actually like the jw faith.

  some might call this faith cold, strict, dogmatic but they're just trying to follow rules and give back to god.

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  Wasanelder Once

  Welcome Ahava.

  From what you've written it seems you like structure and are not so worried about facts. Do not limit yourself to information provided by the object of your research, ie: "The GB are Jehovah's spokesman because they said so". This will explode in your face if you get baptized and then you find the facts they presented you were false. You will be reviled, ignored and become an object of derision. Give it time. If you are studying with them take an extra long time studying before baptism and see how their interest in you will wane as you ask pertinent questions. I would ask, "will JW's still believe in doctrines 10 years from now that they believe is truth now? What if they change their belief in a life or death matter and were wrong all along?

  Unless you are easily used for their gain via money or prestige you will be dropped.
  
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  What really happened around 1918 when WT leaders were imprisoned?

  by dubstepped in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i had never thought about this until just now when i saw that nathan natas posted some early tract from rutherford, and it made me think back to what little i could remember of the history i was taught.

  i now know that in most cases the dubs will spin stories in their favor.

  so i'm now assuming i was told some fictitious story about what happened when the leaders were thrown in prison and things looked bleak for the cult way back when.

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  Wasanelder Once

  The Watchtower Society got a library card with the League of Nations to do research I think.
  
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  New brochure about donations.

  by Ray Frankz in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in this midweek meeting the local needs was a booooring speech about the new brochure on donations.

  the wt must think the jws are dying to know how to give their money.. well, it's not new this is disgusting but this time, after i ve been slightly hinting people here and there for a year about the 'abnormal request of money' and remind them that 'the faithful slave wasn't like that until some time ago', this time i saw their faces.

  they did get bothered with that talk.

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  Wasanelder Once

  The Watchtower Society will consume itself.